How can we establish a True Democracy in Nepal?

In Nepali context: Only True Democracy establish or Save True Democracy from thru this basic process:

(1) Reconsider or Re-write Nepali constitution: "take out Nepal is only Hindu nation...." and re-write democratic Equality constitution.

(2) Modify Constitution ? One cannot be prim-minister of Nepal more than two times. Like American. So even he did wrong for country and people, Policy will kick him out. Not like Surya Bahadur, Girija, Deuba and Krishna. This is great loop whole in Nepal constitution.

(3) Record or statistic systems: Nepalese police must have crime and corruption record system for all Nepalese citizen. So based on police crime and corruption record, person cannot be nominate as a director, chief, minister and prim-minister. So this system might filter the best people for the best role.

(4) Establish and implement very strict Law and Order: To control crime and corruption, capital punishment must be implemented even minimum crimes. No excuses. Otherwise, Loop whole will be in Law, order and justice systems. Some kind of very strict law and order must implement to royal families. Otherwise, turn into a Nepali proverb like ? Jo Aguwa u nai Haguwa ?

(5) Establish equal policy, law and constitution: All Nepalese people or all tribes must treat in equal in government employment, educational systems, social, cultural, religion, law, citizenship and political evolvement.

(6) Control Crimes and Illegal activities: India and Nepal must have Visa Entry systems. As long as free entry systems - blackmail, girl trafficking, smuggling and crimes cannot stop.

(7) Crime and Investigation Police (CIP) must be establish & implements: To watch, arrest, investigate and persecute Nepalese Corrupted Criminals - these type of CIP must require. CIP must have full power like arrest, jail, investigate and shoot. This must apply up to Prim-minister and ministers of Nepal, Army General and police chief. No one must hide from it.

(8) Cooperation and agreement must establish with International Policing: Nepalese Criminals must arrest from any corner from the world and put them in justice. Like china. Nepalese Criminals should not have any safe heaven in this world.

(9) Implement business monitoring or control system: various TAX collection, market value, fear and fix price systems. Without tax and revenue country can run.

(11) Land division by Law, Scientifically and economically: most of the Terai only used for cultivation and industries. Hill must be residence, offices, administration, education, hospital, government building, military, research, technology and national parks. Mountain must be turn into resorts, hotels, and parks. Nepal wealth is forest, natural landscape, farming, wild life, medcine plants, cultivation and tourism. Land division: It might help to manage or utilize land and resources as well as generate national revenue and per capita income.

(12) Basic education must be free and with quality:
Basic High school education must be free and people must be attend high school by law. University educational books, materials, systems must be provide quality education. Not just diplomas and certificates.

(13) Basic daily consumers foods and goods must be cheap or affordable by even poor. But Luxury, entertainment can be expensive. So, maximum poor people can survive by their own, work and pay tax like USA. Basic consumers foods and goods must be affordable, otherwise country will be very serious trouble like today Nepal.


Then after, why do you need fighting or revolution? We can save democracy good way and live with peace and harmony. Then we go further to develop Nepal. Key is - we need to eliminate or control unthinkable Nepalese corruptions and crimes.

Hope, these things will reach the concerned people. In the coming days, we can act like the watchdog of Nepalese Newly formed geo-political force. How do they tackle? Its a question. How do they work to win the heart of general people.

If king gyanendra move wisely, he will restore democracy. People will follow him. He need to educate, train his son to be like a real royal prince. Gyane lose reputation by his son. Paras won't be a king like this way. But gyane move O.K. People are already desprete with corrupted and crooks leaders of political parties. Crooks did too much in this country. We must hang these crooks infront of people's forum.

Nepalese must get rid off (1) Girija (2) Surya Bahadur

GREAT!!! ati uttam kehi kehi bicharharu mildo raichha nitujiko ra mero tara katai nituji law-saw padhne ta hoina ?hehe anyway just a wild guess.
no.1 - sarai ramro !aakhirma hindu dharma hamro hoina indiako ho jasbata hidnustan naam pani ayeko chha.kunai dharmale deshko parichaya dinu ramro hoina.hinduharuko sthan lai hindustan bhaninchha ra tesle hamro nepalma jaro gadnu hasyaspad kura ho.

no.2 -not very clear.nepalma yo ke bhanchha madhyabadi ra sadhyabadile ramro manchhe pani out hunchha naramro pani baschha.tesaile sabaibhanda ramro cabinetma mathi tala jata bhayepani sabai partyko khichadi group is the best policy.bahumat ayepani naayepani harek cabinetma min30% aru partyko pani rakhnu parne garda ajha ramro hola.

no. 3-no. 6 n-- no comment!

no. 7.- CIP ko idea dherai ramro ho tara testo power payepani nepalile nai pauchha kya re .tyo bhaneko badarko haatma nariwal jasto hudaina ra? jaba samma nepaliharu nai imandar hudainan taba kasaile kehi garna sakdaina.mero bicharma CIP ma pani khichadi group ramro hunchha.

no. 8- no comment. ramro bichar tara tesko lagi governmentle aru deshlai pani yeso alikati jhatka dina saknu paryo ni. afia panima bhijeko kukur jasto lutrukka parepachhi ta tyo sambhaw nai chhaina.

no. 9-- alik bujhiyena. without tax and revenue country can run bhaneko ho ki can not run bhanna khojeko ho. tara pani can not run bhanna khojeko hola bichar ramrai ho.

no.10 - ye das no. khojeko khojai gareko ta lekhekai rainachha.

no. 11-- idea dherai ramro chha. deshko bikash charaitirabata hune khalkai idea ho tara jabasamma manchhele ek arkalai descriminate garna chhodaina tabasabba yo ideale kaam garna sakdaina. yeso bichar garda ta hilly areama pura doctor , engineer,ani padhya lekhya thuprine bhaye ani teraima chahi kishan ko thupro hune jasto po dekhiyo.terailai matrai kheti banaune idea ko support garne ho bhane ta mero bicharma sabaibhanda pahila kathmandu valley nai khali garnu parla teha sabaibhanda ramro kheti hunchha kya re hoina? tara pani nischit area tokne yeha urban area banauna napayine ra yetima matrai bastiko bistar garne bhanera. chahe teraima hos ya pahadma tara nitule bhanejhai pahadlai badhi tourismma ra terai lai badhi ubjanima jod dinu parne kura chahi sorai aana sahi ho.

no. 12-- sarwa sulabh sikchhya diyera ke garnu, sittaima kitab badera ke garnu jaba padhne bidyalayeko chhana nai chuhinchha ani bhuiko matai mato kitabma lagchha bhane.mero bicharma sabai bidyalayalai yo afno gau afai banau bhanya jastai bikashko lagi rakam ali ali dine ani indirectly kasko bidyalaya ramro bhanne euta ramro competition ko bhawana jagayidine garda ramro hunchha. baru baru barsa barsama sarwottam bidyalaya bhanera yeso ghoshana garera sano tino purashkar bitaran garda naramro nahola! tara je bhayeni free education ta nepal jasto deshma nabhayi hudaina natra sabaile feri guchha khelna thalchhan ketaketima ani thuloma gitti kutna. ani tesari bachnele deshma gyanbahadur ayo ki sher bahadur ke thaha paunu!

no. 13--chitta bujhyo ani kahile kahi yeso shortage parda pani byapari daiharule dherai natak nagare naramro chahi pakkai hudaina.

aa sachi lastma mero afnai bichar. hami sadhai netalai gali garchhau tara yeso bichar garda yo neta bhaneka gaugharka tatha batha nai hun. aba tiniharule nai aachi khayepachhi gauka arule ta jhan ke garna saklan ra? baru aru aru deshko jastai mantri santri pani universityka professorharulai banaye po hunthyo hehe. uhi san yatsenle bhanya jastai EUTA KUSHAL NETA KUSHAL SHASHAK PANI HUNA SAKCHHA BHANNE CHHAINA. mero bicharma ramro neta tara kutniti chhaina bhane samajsewama lage hunchha ani yeso chalakh tara sewa garera mewa afai nakhane baru yeso deshko lagi ali ali bichar gare uttam hunthyo tara lagchha aba dherai dhilo bhayisakyo!

ASTU!!!

To all and Highvoltage,

Yes, I had a Typo mistakes in previous writings. It was - CAN NOT.

Nepal must collect and utilize tax for development. It must be legal way and right way. But Nepal must clearful with corruption, mismanagements and misuses.

To run and develope country, Nepal need good sources of TAX revenue.

Is not it?

nitu ji, definately.. good views.

I agree with nitu. Yes, It is fact and true.

Does anybody have any suggestion about it?

Establishing democracy is a process. well, it might take decades of centuries in some cases. In some countries democracy became firmly established through a slow process of evolution(eg. Canada) while some in some countries, through revolution ( eg. United States).

Eliminate Corrupt and criminal Nepalese fron country and overseas. King must seize power and proterties from corrupt and criminal Nepalese.

Establsih and turly implemented strong law and order as well as capital punishment in minimum crimes.

What so ever - Crimes and corruption must be either eliminate or stop.


There is NO other way, we can establish, run or save democracy country like Nepal.

I agree with Nitu and highvoltage's points of view.
Corruption and politics (bad politics) is what is hurting our country's democracy and development.
I think Hinduism in Nepal is the identity, pride of our country rather than a tool to sideline other equally respected religions. It is a historic entity of Nepal . When we say, we are proud of Mt. Everest and himalayas which is inhabitated by sherpas, doesn't mean that the people at tarai region, who haven't ever seen it, should object it. Rather they should share this pride. It would have been objectionable if the constitution had put "Nepal is only Hindu's nation" rather than "Nepal is only Hindu nation".
As for international policy, though Nepal's economy is very much dependent upon neighboring country's policies, we should utilize our proximity to both big nations rather than relying singly on one country for everything (thats what went wrong).
Just a thought!

If we control Crimes and Corruption in Nepalese Government Offices, Ministries and Business; We will have Peace, Democracy, Human rights and Freedom.

Who are those stupid or crazy who want to fight and die for nothing? Anybody here????

Everybody wants peace right, but how?

Answer: Nepalese must hang all corrupt and criminal Nepalese crooks..........

If we eliminate corruptions and organize crimes in Nepal, Nepalese automatically or easily can slove Maoist problem as well as other political, legal and developmental problems.

Is not it?

no. that doesn't even scratch the surface

Why not? It digs more than only scratch surface.....

Maybe it is not easy like we talk but we can slove a root problem of all our problems.

King and CIAA must investigate to district Polices, district courts, land texation offices, Central district offices and supreme court of Nepal, too.

CIAA must use fake bribery and arrest red hand. All corrupt and criminal Nepalese must be get life time prison or hang.

NEPAL must implement CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

Corrupt and criminal Nepalese must not escape from Nepal or foreign countries.

Nitu's points are awesome..

Here's how I think we work on democracy

1. Individualism:Each person has to understand that you are living for your needs: shelter,food,love,self esteem and self actualization.(maslow's) Anyways the point is be independent, if you are then you wudn't cry for help from here and there. That should solve the problem of the first two needs of roti and makaaan.

This applies for any good relationship as well. Most people try to find a partner who will complement each other's needs. That way you expect the other to accomplish what you yourself can't. So before you realize you are stcuk on depending on each other and the relationship wears out soon. If you were both independent---you achive the third need of hierarchy - love - .

2. Socialism: To diffrentiate yourself from plants and animals - you need to CARE. caring comes from doing the right things the right way.

This applies for leadership in job and in society. Leaders become what they are by not enforcing your beliefs like a dictator as like GYANE. Leaders are once who know and do what they are telling others to do. If anybody can go out live the life of that poor potato farmer of the mountains, then they could be a leader. But then a good leader shows ways to improvise life, not retrogate. If youknow let others too..help out . Be confident to weed out wrong doers, be able to cherish and celebrate each achievement with the ones who sacrificed most for your freedom...it leads to the fourth need self esteem.

3.Spiritualism: You need to stop and think..hey you have one life. Your sons, daughters, spouse, wealth and even your dog is gonna leave you one day. So why bother hating yourself for doing things that you would not want to do in the first place.

To be able to live for your own peace is one hellavajourney..can we all bring out our mother Teresas and Bonos in US??

Most nepali people - 75 % are thinking about the first need. Grow a veggie garden or do whatever you need to find a way out. Centuries of men have toiled hard to do so and good luck. 23 % are running after things that wud make them feel better socaiillly. We need them to stop there and then before they get more greedy like most of us making ourselves better in other country while draining the nation's economy. Well you need to help the 75 % there. 2%..corrupters..they're opposites of the spiritualist so get rid of them once.

we need people there in nepal to give hope, work and help others. I think my conclusion ( god i'm soo sleepy) is that we need to create a DESH PHARKENI ABHIYAAN TO ALL Nepalese from allover the world. Enuf is enuf its about time we be responsible for things we care..

SO What do you guys think about DESH PHARKANEY ABHIYAAAAAN

King and CIAA must make strong to legal instituations.

Corrupt and criminals must be kick out from legal instituations. Legal instituations must be clean and strong.

King and CIAA must hunt and arrest crook Nepalese at house to house. If crooks nepalese get kill, no single nepalese will protest for good.

Change of Constitution is the principal demand of Maoists. In that regard they seem to be advocating right cause, don't you think that? The Army and other security forces should come under Ministry of Defence, Council of Ministers or Security Council etc. Whoever command their authority has misused them; as the king has at present. Gun is the most powerful commodity in a lawless country like ours. Worse even, the present Constitution is unadequate and incomplete in this regard. An instutution of respectable law and right implementation of that is a minimum requirement of the country now.

Dear friends,

What Maoists said and have been saying seems to be right, that is, as long as the King has Army at his disposal, Nepal will never see a true democracy. They therefore justify their arms struggle as a mean to overthrow the King and place the Army under the people's representative. No constitutional monarch in the world has a 'say' regarding the Army. The PM or president (people's representative) makes a decision regarding the national security and the Army. But our King does everything: deploy Army; appoint ambassadors and judges; promote and transfer beaurocrats and other officials; you name he does everything. He **cks out people's basic fundamental rights: freedom of speech, assembly, movement, press, and so on. What he doesn't do is however, he doesn't intervene in his supporters' activities; for example, they can stage rally in support of monarchy; they are allowed to write freely against, shout at, shoot at, ............ the opposition. He enjoys the self-claimed god-like status and become happy when his 'subjects' drink water that washed his feet. Is this true democracy?

We have arrived at a juncture that now, we have to choose between 'being his subject' or 'being a peace-loving respected citizen of a liberal democratic society'. We are entered the 21st century of the modern world where technological and other advancement has 'given' us so much: the borders between states have become less important; we can share information anytime anywhere in the world; where knowledge and skills have become more important. In an informed modern soceity like this, the King's such behavior is unjustifiable and irresponsible.

Year in year out, our sisters and brothers are getting more informed and knowledgeable. The frequent upheavals of changing politics has taught them a lesson. It is evident from the history they made: the Rana regime ruled for 104 years; the Panchayat ruled for 30 years; so called 'incomplete' democracy survived for 12 years.... it suggests that the struggle has taken shorter and shorter period for a change. Now, with all these experiences and the political knowledage that people have acquired, it can be hoped that 'true' democracy will take short span of time to flourish. While the international support and people's inspiration for true democracy are gaining momentum, the hatred and unpopular direct rule of the King is taking its toll towards decline.

It's my personal view and all friends are invited to comment, add or criticise as they see fit. But one thing is true. That is, we, Nepali, living abroad must join hands together and support the way we can for our country's welfare, prosperity and development. Without true democracy, nothing will prevail.

May B.S. 2062 bring all Nepali together on critical natinal issues. Thank you for your time. Also thanks to riru for placing such a debatable topic.

Racial discrimination must END in Nepali education systems, Government employments, political participation and social justice systems thru New nepali constitution and law.