I am so mad, so mad about the mentality about whole nepali population that one should be better in englsih to govern our country. People say that " he even doesn't know how to talk in eng, how he gonna handle ministry, how can he be minister?" That is the sick mentality we all have. Its good and better to know second language but you have to have respect for ur own language first.


Couple of days ago I was watching President Hu Jintao's visit in US. when he was having meeting with president Bush at oval office, i saw and heard that Hu was talking in chinese and Bush in eng. Bush said meeting was a good one, though Bush doesn't know chinese lang. Hu didn't talk in english.

one more example, last month there was meeting of EU leaders in Europe. Someone from france was invited in the dash to speak, but that guy gives speech in english language, suddenly president of france walks out. why ? cause his national was speaking in English.

China is doing better and best business without englsih language, france is one dominant force in todays world.

These are couples of examples to prove that one need not to be better in Englsih to make his country developed and powerful. We have seen last time how former house speaker taranath ranabhat speak englsih. He was speaking while making the reports public of royal massacre. He should have talk in Nepali, politicain don't get ashamed if u don't know englsih. Get ashamed when you can't deliver to the people what u have promised.

So leaders just work, as u have promise that would be more than enough.

it is nothing but slave mentality.

I think people who can speak English have many advantages in today's world because you can connect to more people if you know English language. English is the number one most spoken language in the world. So many great literatures are written in English language.

Look at Hong Kong, Singapore, India, their knowledge in English language has played a major on their success.

I do not think command in English makes someone more or lesser intelligent however, I believe it certainly have many advantages though.

Methinks, knowing many/any language/s have/has many virtues, and English just seems to have greater significance in terms of being able to communicate in any place - almost.

However, a sharp understanding of English is no barometer for person's intelligence. And for politicians, it is more important to "understand" the sentiments of the people, economical aspects/opportunities for the country, and things of that nature which are essential for the nation to progress.

All in all, it's better to communicate in the language one feels at ease than to communicate in the language that one is not comfortable with.

Thus, the comfort factor and (also) the targeted audience are critical. If one is comfortable and if you "know" your audience, English/French/Japanese/Nepali, or for that matter even "sign language," as the case may be, shall be fine.

Astu!

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Well you must have interpreted. What was said in the thread was if the politician doesnot know proper english he should stick to own language rather then embarassing whole nepali community.Vladimir putin stick to russian when blair visited russia.What about hindi. We have seen nepalese politican taking in very weak hindi in indian channels. Isnt that a slave mentallity?

sorry it should have been misinterpreted.

If the Chinese and the French and the Russians etc. can have a translator why not Nepalese.. who said a person fluent in English makes a good leader?? grow up kids....

I dont agree with u thopa....not even in a single point.... Can u compare china to Nepal???? not at this time..... our economy is fu(ked up....our education system is the same ..we rely on english books from a young young stage.. in this perspective do u think if our leaders will go abroad anf talk in Neplese anyone will even bother to translate it??? we arent in spotlight for good deeds like china or anyother people... wee need to be in soptlight for that may be our politicians should learn to communicate in English.

A person with a good english doesnot makes good leader. But why do these politicians have to make our face red with their ludicrous english. Why cant they stick to interpreter. Taranath ranabhat report on royal masacar made farce of very sad situation. Doesn't nepal have a better speaker in english.

Language is a means of communication. Exactly, you do not need to sepak English to show up yourself as a standard person. To get more opportunities and for financial prosperity English has proved as milestone in Nepal. So it's a general idea of people that Who can speak English, definitly he has got something .....

We have a long history since Jaunga Bahadur Visited UK, and surpirsed seeing even KIDS speaking English in UK. Yeah, the mentality has been inherited since years back.It is true that it's still omnipresnt in Nepal.

On the top of it, The young kids are taught unnecessary, and overloaded curriculum in Boarding Schools where studetns learn about Nepalese cultures and history in English. ' what a joke'

Once a kid who was taught in Ktm boarding school goes to village and asks what the hell is 'BHAISSAI' it's a buffalo !

It is true that there is lack of government of proper supervise of the lanugage used for the prosperity of Language and its Identity. I am worried one day, in decades the kids may not speak Nepali at all.

Our Governement is weak, there are never an intelluctuals to implement such issues in the country. As you guys knows just 20 miles away from UK of next coutries of Europe, France, Germany do not speak English where as 5000 miles away every nepali feel proud to utter some English.

It is not strange that most of the generations in their between 20's and 30's speak 50% Nepali and 50% English ....... they can not speak Complete Nepali without adding some words in English ...

It will not be any wonder, if the national language soon turn into 'Nepangregi'

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hah!hopefully this is the last for me!!!for today!;oP hehe...

anyways...im ditto on everything on wat indi bro said!(the things i understood!!and no indi bro!its not u!!its me :o( ..just tryn to be safe ke!in case i assumed wrongly and werent inur wavelength :oS hehe)but of cos i wanna write meself!so here goes!!!duh!wat are hands for!and the keyboard!;oP hehe...and yes im thinkn too ;o)..thats nthn new re?:oS hehe..

seriously speakn i guess..since we are nepalis..(well im referrin to those of us..who likes to call ourselves nepalis..and associate ourselves with nepali things and stuffs :oD...)..i guess we do like other ppl to think nice of our own country or anything nepali hehe..is that biasness?who aint bias duh!hehe...so yap..when we do see ppl representin nepal..and they seem to do things..that makes us feel ..other ppl might mock nepal for...guess that does boil our blood..(oh talkn about boilin blood..dyam!i miss those pork/khasi meat tht was cooked in blood!!!:oD hehe)...sensitive ppl we are arent we?

i guess..to each their own...i guess someone whos proficient in english..if they see someone whos supposed to be the PM of a country..they do think highly of the person..since he is the PM..but as they say 1st impression counts?if the PM standard of english seems to be quite bad..yap not a good 1st impression?and of cos..we want our frens and other ppl to be impressed with NEPAL!dun we?hehe...is that a personal agenda?or patriotism?lets not debate on that hehe..

but yap...in the end..depends wat language u use regularly..i had a fren who went to nepal and after a few yrs..told me..he felt weird talkn in english..and hah!the way he typed..the way he talked..was diff too!guess one does need practice constantly to at least stay at his current standard?...

its just a bloody language for gawdsake!languages were created to communicate!!!the things we end up comparing!!wat sounds more slick re?cool re?..ke ke ho ke ke :oS hehe..dunno if a day will come if there will be a language to rule them all..sounds like a good idea?(programmers!!!why do we have so much languages bhaney!!!hyaa!!!paagal bhaisakio!:@ hehe)to make it easier?but will ppl be willin to throw away their 'culture' and their lang?..wat indentifies them?hah!arent we such attached creatures?;oP hehe..well for now we are ...arent we?;oP hehe...

oh..the whole point of me typing here..is not about the language...just wanted to say..of cos bloody Girja has the BRAINS!!of cos we all know that..dun we?someone wanna cut open his head to check?and confirm?;oP hehe..hey im not into politics..i mean duh!..why be in it!tauko tension!cos duh!english ta euta kura..teyti ramro nabhayeh pani thikai..cos i aint english!!DUH!;oP hehe...but urghh..nepali ta jhan khalash!..mero political aspirations urghh..gone into smoke..even before the aspirations came to me :o( hehe...

but yap..how many freakn times has Girja become PM of our country?i really dun think i have heard him speak in english..and the nepali speeches that i heard a few..just say that time..watchn the screen..but mind smwhere else ..cos duh!kehi bhujna!auto response of me mind is to go smwhere else!hehe...and of cos ..to be a PM..can any tom! (with a) dick!(and) hairy(? wahahaha dyam i love these names ;oP hehe) be a PM these many times?if he didnt have the brain!its politics!!!he sure has brains!and like someone mentioned before ..in dunno which thread...10 yrs(wasnt that how long our prev democracy lasted?..dun mind me..i really dun give an arse for details ;oP hehe)...for 10 yrs..he sucked (dun get the wrong idea!!!;oP hehe)..more than he blew(told u dun get the wrong idea!:@ ;oP hehe)..i mean..i know im assuming/speculatin..but seriously..im sure u all do agree with me on this..when i say..im sure if he had his head and heart for the country(same goes for the other politicians..lets not play the name games..i mean..enuf of tom,dick,harry?;oP hehe..wats in a name anyways?hehe they all the same!know wat i mean!suck suck suck!:@ ;oP hehe..)..sucked the country ..instead of blowin it and makin it big and bloated :oS...(hah!this is a sick thot..but dyam!u know blowin..and then it gets big!hah!it all makes sense now why they say blow!!;oP hehe)...ok enuf of speculations...

and like thopa..guess have to say...
past is past...its done and over with hoina?..who cares about the profiency in languages!!!...hope i have..like u all?...hope 10 yrs of suckn has made them tired..and now they wanna start blowin!!!smthing diff!!!old or not!!try smthing diff!!!budo bajey haru!!!!:@ ;oP hehe...respect para bhaneyko hai ...if not ma jpt ko lai pani bajey bhanna hai ;o)..except one fren..but duh!thats his nick!;oP hehe..

and oh yah..i got this one international student fren..anyone who was whinin about ppl not being good in english..well..u need to know ppl like me fren ;o)..salla ley ta mero arse dehrai phitcha!3 yrs mai english kati fast sikeyko ho bhaney!:o|..ma jattikai enuf time payeko bha to learn in english..baal ni diney thio hola!;oP hehe..duh!esto helpful cha..and dimak ta jhan nabhaneybha huncha :oS hehe..salla nepali bha ta..teilai ta politics ma jah bhanthey!duh!im sure he go without me mentionin!!helpful cha!dimak cha!gaaf ma top cha!..already sounds like a capable PM eh ;o) hehe..

la la...

Pashupatinath le sabai ko rakchya garus!!

wahahahaa..politics suru bhoyo!;oP hehe..and yes!one day!if i do get a chance to vote!i wouldnt think too much if that policitician cant speak proper nepali!!dun u think too much about it too!:@ hehe..duh!;oP hehe...shit!1 hr left of sleep time!wat was i thinkn!!!!arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!:oS hehe...

good day :oD..

abui!!7 post cut the queue!!!indi bro!i was supposed to be after u!!!..GUHAAAR!!!!'politics' is goin on here i tell u!!:@ ;oP hehee...

LOL. Danny bro, you cracked me up. After seven posts? Hahaha. Reminds me of that "person above me" one. We are in same "wave length," but at times our "frequency" changes.;)

Regarding the post; no wonder I have been a fan of your "Declarations..." in the past years. I am in awe. You go bro!

Keep em' coming birader
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totally agreed with thopa nepali is a tough language and i think we should respect ppl who can speak nepali like that and give speeches and stuff
like gagan thapa his nepali is so good he speaks so fast its crazy i dont know how he does it