Until then, religions will continue to divide humanity in the same way as they have done for centuries. Ignorance is the basis of intolerance…. ( borrowed from a net article )


How the interim government has announced that Nepal is a secular state which does not make the hindu in nepal less hindu … but still the other biased policies remains. All this also needs to be changed, from reducing number of Hindu holidays, to adding others religions religious day declared as holiday ( 2 holidays for each religion in Nepal, just a thought ), to not using the “nepali” or khas language as compulsory or the 1st language, etc.. Please do not look for offence when there is none, my friends. Just cause happy the country no long proclaiming it a Hindu state does not mean against the religion. Nepal staying a Hindu kingdom would have been dammed by its southern neighbor (big brother, a more fitting word would be big dada!! if you know what I mean.) Dada expects all the other neighboring countries around to move on their thoughts, image, morals, etc.. and not to be better then them… just look at the interest of the hardliner Hindu politicians in big dada towards Nepal. For that reason of being a Hindu state some or most Indians, always very eager to associate or say people from Nepal and them are the same but they won’t associate or say that people from Bangladesh are the same with them. Go figure. A case of seeing what is not there, stubbornly saying a box and a triangle is the same. Everyone wants to have clarity in regards of country, religion and race. Ask a Malaysian Indian Muslim person, is that person an Indian? “Yes “will be a reply. Hindu Indian? That person will reply, “No am a Malaysian by national, Sindhi Indian by race and a Muslim by religion“ proudly. A person from Nepal if says is a Buddhist or Christian, etc.. apart from Hindu the reception is not welcoming from others, even from their own fellow Hindu country women/men. Thinking that the person who says is a not Hindu is trying to be someone else then what actually is when overseas or blasphemy if said in Nepal.
A slow movement to hindunize (is there such a word?? no seriously do not know) the whole nation by claiming a “Nepali “ new year. Non-Hindu of Nepal being hypnotized to think that they are Nepalese by race when there is no such thing as a Nepalese race!! Even if argue that when say Nepali/Nepalese is referring to the citizens of Nepal. Why then celebrate the Nepali/Nepalese New Year?? Is being a good citizen mean to celebrating/observing a Hindu harvest festival. " Nepali bha ehra Nepali new year na man nay???” Why should people observe it when not one’s religion beliefs ???!! Just because of being called “Nepalese“??? People in and out of Nepal are yelling their lungs out calling for democracy in Nepal, yet those in power or the vocal mass deliberately call a Hindu festival Nepali new year without thinking that in Nepal there are Buddhist, Kirat, Muslims, Christians, Bonpo and many others religions. Why not the new year of Gurungs, Yolmos, Sherpas, Manangs, Tamangs and many other Himalayan ethnic people called a Nepalese new year, which are Buddhist/Shamanistic/Bonpo based? What about the Kirat also?? What about the Muslim new year, there is for those who did not know of such a New Year? Lets forget about respecting them, when the world views us we want to be known or seen only as Hindu. In the process if the rest of the others population is viewed as Hindu, it’s too bad! Is what imagining who ever is in the government of Nepal said or is saying when in power. That’s democracy for all the people of Nepal in and out of the country!!!
The holy cow not to be kill or eaten imposed to all other non-believers, why again??? Look at Malaysia or Indonesia, despite being a Muslim country non-Muslim are not reframed to eat pork. Yeah pork is not holy some may argue but the Muslims majority they don’t eat pork the rest of the non-Muslims minority are not reframed by their government state policies or seen as a sin or crime?? Don’t point out the bad points of these countries, every countries has some, learn the good not the bad. Those who want to argue on the bad points go/come to sahja.com a place, people of Nepal in or out of Nepal go/come to bicker about of who is bigger by caste and creed. Who are the original people of Nepal. Who is more educated. Why everyone must know the so-called “Nepali” language or speak it properly. Why the girls wearing revealing cloths when overseas and being shameless? (Who died and made one the moral educator!!!! Why are ones’ moral the best!! Girls have a right to wear what they like or behave and one should stop hypocrisy by not ogling with drooling mouths and raise it as a topic in a forum as can’t get the image out of one’s mind due to lust rather then being shocked!!). Who they have as friends or getting along with for justification for self or need to be unlabelled and what not. Who really made the country? Who contributed to the country, etc….. not forgetting Nepal should stay a Hindu kingdom said with such arrogance!!
There is a small agenda in this writing won’t deny that. People from Nepal all over the world especially to the Hindu of Nepal, no attacks intending intentionally nor unintentionally do note that again. The Indian dada saying “ ahray bai, India or Nepal toh ek hi heh na”… do you really want to hear this??!! The point making is there is to too much emphasis on differences in Nepal, quoting “Until then, religions will continue to divide humanity in the same way as they have done for centuries “. Then why the hell am I making so much of noise about government policies about Hindu festivals, etc… most people may say and even call this person a fool/confused/out to make trouble.
Patients my friends, there is another more important point… just because Nepal “majority” is said to be Hindu, does not mean that all are Hindu and celebrate/observe “ Nepali ” new year, Tihar, holi, etc… ignorance to others beliefs, culture, language, etc... and only assuming or glorifying one’s religion or one’s people or one’s language or one’s beliefs to be correct in a country or world will lead to intolerance…. The need to be one is always mistaken to eradicate others or change/convert others to follow what one is following.

Hope we have learnt some things about ignorance and respect, although some may think that I’m ignorant and without any respect for writing this also… irony, ha ha ha…

The weekends are near so time to enjoy with ones’ friends and family which always brings a smile and warmth… Cheers!! May Allah\God\Bhogawan protect and watch over all of you and may Sakyamuni Buddha’s teachings guide you all my friends… For all those whom do not believe in religion/god may your right judgment guide you all… lets do the right thing and not let our ego win.

Grow up guys!

aadivasis-janjatis-dalits have been demanding a secular state for years now. It was one of the demands of the recent movement, but was subsumed under the banner “Samabeshi Loktantra.”

Going secular is good news for Nepal. this is an EXCELLENT news for both the marginalized muslim/ and historically persecuted christian community as well as for the aadivasi-janjati-dalits! mind you, enlightened brahmins/chhetris have also been in the forefront of a crusade for a secular state. you cannot have a 'samabeshi loktantra' with a hindu tag. how can you have over a dozen upa-dafas pertaining to Hinduism and ONLY ONE in the now-dead constitution (thank God), , and not a single one for Islam or other religions? Tagging Nepal as a "Hindu country" is discriminatory and offensive to countless other religions!!!

grow up again dudes! that 85% of the population of Nepal are Hindus is a myth - no matter what the manipulated figures in the population censuses taken during the hindu regime show. Don’t you get it? It was on this and similar other heaps of lies that the legitimacy of the Palace and the God-like status of the Shah Dynasty was built! you must know that the state-sponsored population censuses have always been mired in controversies - and even the National Planning Commission have had to admit to this fact on more occasions than one.

“Katmar” under secular Nepal? Again grow up dudes. at least, this is a good first step toward abolition of the apartheid of South Asia (caste system) which stems directly from fundamentalist Hinduism, which has been given protection by the palace. there has been more “katmar” under Hindu Nepal than you can even document. Even animal rights activists are scared of the voracious appetites of hindu gods and goddesses such as Kali Mata. Haven't you heard of the allegations that Mr. Bharat Keshari Singh's groups were involved in the murder of Mr. Pokhrel, who had financed many education institutions across Nepal through organising of "Yagyas”. I think the new Nepal Government must look into this allegation and bring the culprits to book.

shiva sena resides in pointlessness in India. they are a spent force. hindu Bishwo Parishad also resides in pointlessness. certainly, Secular Nepal may open up possibilities for religion-based politics and give rise to Nepali BJPs. But there are also countervailing forces in Nepal. You guys have to remember that the Dalits - aadivasis - janjatis - muslims - christians are a formidable force and they have the numbers. enlightened Brahmins and Chhteris are okay with the secular tag, and are even saying that this is best for the country. Maoists as well as the large swathes of rural population they have a sway over have welcome this Secular Tag.

So to say that Nepal is imposing a "Secular" tag on a country with 87% to 97% Hindus is a heap of lies. Did I also mention women who are fed up of patriarchy, which had been given a boost and protection by the palace and its god-like King. mind you, the non-Hindu minorities are increasingly empowering themselves, organising themselves and asserting themselves, thanks to the space created for them by the 2046 movement. Aadivashis-janjatis alone make up 37% of the population. Dalits make up 20%. Women make up almost 50%. Christians and Muslims are rapidly growing in numbers. So with figures like these, it is not scientific to say that Nepal is a "Hindu" country. Anyway this has nothing to do with science. Turkey’s muslim population may actually exceed 90% but it is still a Secular Country.

I don’t think it Secular Nepal will create any long term problem – it may create a short term problem. If you look at the hilltops in and around Kathmandu, you can see more lavish and more modern Buddhist gombas and monasteries outshining the shive lingas and tridents. This is only a sneak preview of things to come! When the Tamangs / Sherpas/ Gurungs/ Tibetans decide to celebrate a “Lhosar” on the same day (attempts have been made in this direction), then “Lhosar” will truly be a “national” festival, and help forge a pan-aadivasi-janjati solidarity. It is only a matter of time.

I say Secular Nepal will not pose problems in the long term because
even though Nepali BJPs may come to power (every dag has its day) in Secular Nepal - so what? Many BJPs have come and gone in India - but India is still a secular country. Only in Secular Nepal, can we have equal respect for all religions, all cultures - thus enriching the diversity of Nepal. This is a very positive thing! Otherwise what difference is there between people who are arguing in this thread that Nepal is a “Hindu Country” and should remain so, and our successive kings who have acted like Nepal was their “birta”.

Lest people counter that going Nepal secular under is “indianisation of Nepal”, it is good to remember that Nepal has been more indianised under Hindu Nepal. I have actually heard Paras say, “I’m married to India.” He meant both literally and figuratively. You must know about the Sankacharyas from South India, who exercise control over the Pashupati Nath. And it was the Sankarcharya from South India who introduced Hinduism’s ugliest aspect –Caste System – to Nepal. Hell, it was with Hinduisation of Nepal that Indianisation of Nepal began. So if people on this thread argue that Nepal going secular is “indianisation of Nepal” needs to reread Nepali history.

Anyway, HINDU tag is an idea whose time has gone. Gone with the wind! i have no doubt pashupati nath temple will acquire a much cleaner and more respected image under Secular Nepal. Under the kathit “Asal Hindu Rastra Nepal”, pashupati nath temple had become a poster boy of mismanagement, fraudulence, chakribad, corruption, sins, thanks to the palace and palace-propped puppets. when count draculas like Bharat Keshari Singh & the palace puppets masquerade as spokespersons for "ASAL HINDU Rashtraya", this is what happens – they ruin/dirty the image of Pashupati Nath temple and also of Hinduism. They allowed the holy Bagmati River/Sali Nadi to be polluted. Where do you think all that money that the devotees offered to Pashupati Nath temple went? No point for guessing correctly. SECULAR NEPAL is an effective way to drive a stake through the hearts of these draculas and their false-god-king and thereby prevent their sullying the image of Hinduism.

Under Secular Nepal, we may finally have the chance to restore Hinduism, and thereby Pashupati Nath, Bagmati & Sali Nadi, to their pristine glories and coexist peacefully (more than ever before) with other religions and cultures?

Have you thought along these lines at all guys?

May Pashupati Nath give you the inspiration to think along these lines as well!

" If you look at the hilltops in and around Kathmandu, you can see more lavish and more modern Buddhist gombas and monasteries outshining the shive lingas and tridents. This is only a sneak preview of things to come! When the Tamangs / Sherpas/ Gurungs/ Tibetans decide to celebrate a “Lhosar” on the same day (attempts have been made in this direction), then “Lhosar” will truly be a “national” festival, and help forge a pan-aadivasi-janjati solidarity. It is only a matter of time. "
HMMMMMmm.. that was the real beef out here. Ok i give u that lets not make dashain Our national holiday we should make lhosar.Happy!

Hello all Nepalese Om shanti shanti shanti,

Well, it is good finally Nepal being a secular country. Now this is the chance for all Nepalis regardless of cast, creed, race, language and religion to be united as one nation one people as Nepal and Nepalese practicing all different cultures, languages and way of life what we call faith.

As everybody knows to our knows Human Organized Civilization we have only concrete base from Indus Valley Civilization after destruction of Atlantis and Sumeru Civilization. Indus Valley Civilization is based upon Migthy Kashmir Valley and Tibetian Platueaic Himalayan. This has been mystery with Shiva Lingum and Guheswori, that is our origin and this Mystery of functioning of Brain and associated Electric Wave imbedded in us.

So from the very beginning we are luckily being borned in Nepal as Nepalese part of this GRAND MYSTERY of HUMAN CIVILIZATION and must be proud to have association Kiratshwor Mahadev and Guheshowri at the same time Secret and Sacred Bajra (Lightening = Electricity) in the Swoyembhunath and Buddha.

As human civilizations evolved further came into existence many other faiths as judiasm, Christianity and Islam ofcourse not to forget all indigenous original shamanism from Asia to Africa to among Eskimo in Atanrtica up in North America-Canada and among aboriginals in Austrai, Maoris and many such native tribes throughout globe and strangly enough all these traditional thinking way of living and leading life and perception is almost same directed towards same MYSTERIOUS, UNKNOWN OUR CREATOR-S the GOD.

Til now nobody has seen this GOD this was in the past an excuse and tool to use and exploite innocent and simple people who are ignorant and not exposed to other world and cultures by BUNCH OF THUGS for their own survival. It happened with Hinduism in our part of world, with Judiasm in Middle East along came Christianity in terms of Catholicism and still going on with Protestantism in modern world and finally now this direct CLASH OF CIVILIZATION going on between specially ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY.

Well, everybody KNOWS THIS FACT THAT WE ARE BORN ALONE WE ARE ALWAYS ALONE NO MATTER WHAT AND WE WILL DIE ALONE ONE DAY TAKING THIS INDIVIDUAL MYSTERY ALONG WITH US. PERHAPS WE EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL GET TO KNOW THE TRUTH ONLY LEAVING EARTH AFTER DEATH AGAIN WITH TRANSFORMATION OF OUR ELECTRICITY ENERGY INTO ... ANOTHER IN THIS MULTIVERSE?? IT IS STILL MYSTERY.

SO volks so long as we live EVERYBODY HAS RIGHT TO LIVE AND LEAD their own life according to their OWN PERCEPTION AND THINKING without harming others in the VICINITY. WE ARE HUMAN BEING BECAUSE WE CAN THINK AND COMMUNICATE AND REASON WITH OUR LOGIC WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. So long as we live it is our sturggle to keep this MYSTERIOUS ELECTRIC WAVE intact by supplying Food in terms of Energy so is this SURVIVAL FOR EXISTENCE. Hence, live and let live respect each other, take others as they are and lead peaceful and harmonious life.

THIS QUESTION OF GOD NO MATTER THROUGH WHICH TRADITIONAL FAITH OR BELIEFE SYSTEM WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND OR WITH ALL THESE SO CALLED MODERN SCIETIFIC EDUCATIONS IN VARIOUS FILEDS AS GENETICA ENGINEERING, PHYSICS, BIOLOGY, CHEMISTRY, MATHMATICS, COSMOLOGY -ASTROLOGY, IT WILL REMAIN A MYSTERY FOR LONG GENERATIONS TO COME. WE IN OUR LIFE TIME WILL NOT GET TO KNOW THIS MYSTRY. PERHAPS IN DISTANT FUTURE ONE OF OUR GENERATION IF COMES IN CONTACT WITH ANOTHER MULTIVERSIAAL CIVILIZATION AND COMMUICATE PERHAPS WE UNRAVELL THIS MYSTERY OF GOD AND ORIGIN OF WE HUMAN BEING NO MATTER OF WHAT COLOR, CREED, CASTE OR NATION WE BELONG TO.

AFTER ALL ALL RELIGIONS ARE JUST SURVIAL SYSTEM TO PROTECT ONESELF FROM GETTING KILLED AND IF POSSIBLE TO EXPLOITE OTHERS LOOKING ANSWERS FOR THIS LONLINESS AND FULFILLING WITH THIS MYSTERY OF UNKNOWN MYSTERY WHAT WE ALL CALL GOD NO MATTER IN WHICH FORM OR NAME.

LIVE AND LET LIVE LIVE AND LET LIVE

PEACE PEACE PEACEP PEACE AND HARMONY AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL

'Every soul has to find its own way towards Moksha'.
The above statement is one of the basic philosophy of Hinduism. A lot of us agree that Hinduism is not an organised religion.It is a coglomeration of may different practices that existed in the South Asian subcontinent.

What I mean to say is the main basis of Hinduism is very secular. It is compatible with any other religions. You have to know what you are doing and understand the basics.If you think some of the practices are wrong, just do away with this in your own life. If you feel that you will achieve salvation by following a different path (religion), it is your choice and the basic Hindu philosophy has never objected to it.