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houstonguru
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Posted on 02-19-07 12:33
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How many of you think, eradicating Monarchy is a solution for Nepal? If you think so, enlighten your wisdom, which I am sure cannot be achieved; it will come from your self-esteem. Check the data, who killed more? People are talking about JanandolanII: not more than 20 people died, what about Terai Andolan, more than 30 people died. Shouldn't the govt of Nepal, including the spammers and the terrorists be blamed for this and a probe committee be formed? Think honestly What did king do? He just tried to save his country. What WRONG step did he take, that others did not and you are favoring Terrorists and Spammers? if all are killers, he is the least. If all are violators of human rights, king is the least. if all are undemocratic, king is the least. if all are chaotic, king is least. If all are loyal to Nepal, king is the MOST, it is his nation, and he is the head of the family. he loves and cares he family. Sometimes even a parent makes mistake, but we not change out parents. King stands in the same page. Secularism means no preference of religion. After declaring Secular, Nepal is divided in religion. What did you get? Even if you believe king has lot of money, all the king in this world has money. If you think he is corrupt, all the spammers and terrorists are corrupts. Do you think Prachu Bhaiya can afford by the watch he is wearing. Certainly, he cannot. He will rob from us. Atleast king will not, he owns businesses. If anyone can convince me that king is wrong in any aspects, I am ready to give up my thoughts. Show me guys!!!
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Kalki Kapil
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Posted on 02-19-07 12:39
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Houstonguru, U R simply BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kaleKanchha
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Posted on 02-19-07 12:40
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special 2 words here is MY A55
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CHYAME KANCHA
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Posted on 02-19-07 12:46
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single solution ELIMINATE THE ROOT CAUSE the root cause is that nepali leaders have neither sense of patriotism nor responsibility leaders include king, SPA, maoist (the smart asSh0les) we selected our own leaders because we had no alternatives we all are responsible so nepal is in need of a real leader and we have to be careful in selecting them no matter how long we discuss here, support or oppose one another, its not going to change (may change from one form to another but the situation will not improve)
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houstonguru
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Posted on 02-19-07 1:23
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Kancha Bhaiya: Gali garab sabai lai aauncha, I am sure everyone here is competent. I want some logic to you reply. Jai King!
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Posted on 02-19-07 5:20
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houstonguru, जन आन्दोलन् दोस्रो र मधेश आन्दोलनमा धेरै फरक छ। जन आन्दोलन दोस्रोमा शान्तिपुर्ण प्रदर्शनमा सेना तथा प्रहरीले निहत्था जनतामाथी गोली बर्साएका थिए। मधेश आन्दोलनमा आन्दोलनकारीहरु भाला, खुकुरी, तीर लिएर आएका छन् र प्रहरी चौकीमाथी आक्रमण गरेका छन्।त्याहा मन्डलेहरु, देशमा अश्थिरता सिर्जना गरेर राजाको पक्षमा श्थिति अनुकुल् तुल्याउने तत्वहरुले काम गरेको छ।पहाडी मुलका मानिसहरुलाई आक्रमण गरिएकोछ।यस्तोमा प्रहरीले गोली नचलाएर के गर्ने? उपेन्द्र यादवले नै भनेका छन्, तीर् भाला लिएर आउनेहरु उनका कार्यकर्ता होइननन् भनेर। निस्चय नै पार्टिका नेताहरु दूधले धोइएका छैनन। जनताहरु पार्टिबाट आज्जित नभएका होइनन तर त्यसको मतलब प्रजातंत्रको घांटि निमोठेर राजालाई मन् लाग्दि गरुन् भनेर जनताले चाहेका पनि होइनन। राजाको संबैधानिक स्थान छदै थियो। नेताहरुले गल्ती गर्दा, ए, यो के गरेको भनेर नेताहरुलाई सचेत गराउने हैसियत् राजासंग छदै थियो।राजा र दलहरु मिलेर देशलाइ सम्मुनत बाटोमा लाने अवसर छदै थियो। पार्टिहरुले गल्ती गरिरहदा राजाले त्यसलाइ आफ्नो पक्षमा अंक थपिएको रुपमा लिएर पार्टीहरुलाई कहिले सचेत् गराउने तर्फ लागेनन्। त्यो कुनियत थियो। शेर बहदुरले त राजाले जे जे भन्यो त्यहि गरेकै हुन। तैपनि राजालाई यतिले पुगेन। प्रजातंत्र भन्दै प्रजातंत्रको घांटी निमोठेरै छाडे। गिरिजाले अझै राजालाई सचेत् गराउदै थिए, सरकार्, दलहरु र माओबादी मिल्ने अवस्था आएमा ठूलो अनिष्ठ हुने छ तर मर्केले यो कुरो बुझेन। अहिलेको आधुनिक युगमा टेलिफोन बन्द गर्ने, मोबाईल बन्द गर्ने, ईन्टर्नेट बन्द गर्ने, मिडीयामा सेनाले समाचार एडिट गर्ने जस्ता काम यो राजाले गरायो।देशै छोडेर भागेका तुलसी गिरि जस्तालाई बोलाएर ल्याएर उपाध्यक्ष बनायो। अरु धेरै के भनूं? राजा यति धेरै घृणाका पात्र हुनमा पारसेको पनि काम् हो। यो अधम जनताको छोराको छातीमा गाडी कुदाउछ। यस्ताले के जनताको माया गर्छन? ह्युस्टनगुरु, यदि राजाले देश र जनतालाई माया गर्ने भए, संसारबाटै किन राजतंत्र हराउदै छ, अथवा नाम् मात्रमा किन बांचेको छ? गुरु, राजाको कुरा छोडिदिउं, तिमिलाई जति नै माया लागे पनि राजतंत्र भनेको भिर बाट लड्न लागेको गोरु हो, अब राम् राम् मात्र भन्न सकिन्छ, कांध् थाप्न सकिदैन। राजालाई देश र जनताको यति सारो चासो छ भने, राजगद्धी त्यागेर, पार्टि खोलेर राजनीति गर्न आउ, रोकिदैन। स्वागत् छ, आउ, चुनाव् लड, राष्ट्रपती बन। होइन भने सयौं बर्ष पहिले तिम्रा पुर्खाले लिगलिग कोटम दौड जितेर हासिल गरेको भरमा तिमिलाई हामी राजा स्वीकार् गर्ने छैनौ।
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live_wire
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Posted on 02-19-07 5:47
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houstonguru, The King removed an elected body, defied the constitution, and imposed his rule. Yet, by your own account did nothing new, nothing different. The insurgency as well as "Royal Spending" was getting out of control. Your analogy between king-country and parents-kids is laughable at best. Your arguements in your post are rehashed statements from other sajha posting and can easily be torn apart. Others like ur take on corruption is naive. Where do you think the king got his money for business from? Who do you think payed for the fancy car that he likes to take on a stroll? Let us not forget about the 15 vehicles that are a part of his posse. The security, the petrol that they are using even the uniform. Who is paying for all that? King's Business? Kun business tobacco business or 'desh' business? And all that spending for an incompetent ruler who divided a two fold power struggle to three? or for a leader who did not deliver instead went on a month tour of African nations using one of the two RNAC airline that the country had in midst of insurgency? Tax money that kings bask on can be spent elsewhere. Good for the country, better for people. Lost in the arguement of king vs neta is the system under which these 'rulers' operate. Lets look kingship. Does it have flaws? What are its strength? Look at democratic system. How about its flaws and pluses? If we talk under these paradigms, I am sure we can start building consensus. Or else, we are getting nowhere. King did this..neta did that... Write more along these lines, the better system, Houstonguru. I will reply for sure.Once again, not king or neta but what system do we want?
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 02-19-07 6:42
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Jaya Nepal wrote: jaya-nepal Posted on 02-19-07 9:35 AM Reply | Notify Admin eal me1 wrote- I am proud I belong to the FIRST category and I AM A ROYALIST. Jai Desh! Jai Naresh! Long live king!!! (http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openthreadall.cfm?StartRow=41&PageNum=3&forum=2&threadid=41968) Again real me1 wrote- E NEED AN INDEPENDENT MADHESH. THERE SHOULDNT BE ANY RELUCTANCE ABOUT IT. SINCE NEPAL HAS 50% MADHESHIS TO THE LEAST, WE DEMAND 50% OF NEPAL. REST 50%, WE DONT CARE, EITHER FLOW PROSTITUTION OR MAOIST ACTIVITIES. THIS IS NEED TO RESTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE THERE SHOULDNT BE A FEDERAL SYSTEM, WE SHOULD DEMAND A NEW NATION, AND WITH VISA SYSTEM TO ENTER AND EXIT, SO THAT NO INDIAN OR PAHADES CAN INFILTRATE, AND OF COURSE NO BABU OR PRACHANDE. KING CAN HAVE ACCOMMODATION, SINCE HE IS A HINDU MONARCH. (http://sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=41363) Now, you to decide the Tarai unrest and Madhise Andolan was fueled by whom and for what.
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houstonguru
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Posted on 02-19-07 7:32
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We want King and Madhesh representation both. I am sure your mind is not developed enough to understand the meaning of it. Free Advise: Take IODINE salt. 'U will be better off
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Jai_Nepal
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Posted on 02-19-07 7:35
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Seeing all the Chaos and fighting for power and money, my vote goes to the King. But as we all know, the King is never coming to power again. So lets think of an alternative. My second vote goes to the political leaders... I hate Maoists. We should all join hands to defeat the freakin Terrorists. Prachanda Murdabad. Maobadi Murdabad.
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Purwa_Phaancha
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Posted on 02-19-07 7:48
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It is a dubious claim to associate Monarch to the protests of Madeshi people. Our king loves and respects Madeshi people as much as he does to rest of Nepali people. Some of the people who are in power cant bring stability and peace in the nation and seek to blame for their failures on Monarch.
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bodmas
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Posted on 02-19-07 10:51
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The this I don't understand about the dude posting this article is why the heck do u have a slave tendency. We need to pay our tax money for that leech to sit in the throne and do as he pleases. His astray son and the so called royals. If I have to pay 1 rs to support that dude I will think the money is wasted. Dude why don't u understand , why do u want tp pay money and make someone your master? You can rule, you don't need any MoFo king , it will take time to adjust but we will be alright. Don't ever say the king is good. Or the Monarchy is good.
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Jai_Nepal
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Posted on 02-19-07 10:55
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Bodmas, Ok lets suppose we get rid of the king. Then Nepal will be ruled by the Maoists. Would you rather give your rp. 1 to the Maoists? Either way your Rp. 1 is being wasted filling the pocket of either the king, Maoists, or the corrupt political leader. Whom whould you rather give your Rp.1? Defeat Terrorism. Prachanday chor Murdabad.
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houstonguru
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Posted on 02-19-07 11:05
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Bodmas Bhaiya: Dont ever teach me what one should write. U are not in my level to talk. See some categorization. I am sure you belong to the 2nd or the 3rd kind. If you do not pay Rs. 1 to King, Prachu Bhaiya will come and loot your 1000s and will rape and leave your sister, daughter, mother and Fkk the A$s of your dad. Now choose, what u want to. Jai King
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Posted on 02-20-07 12:05
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Houston guru, I dismiss your categorization. Tell me what is the academic qualification of Paras ? Which category will you place him in?
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Posted on 02-20-07 12:27
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kingship is a failed system.. although nepal had a few good kings. prithvi narayan shah, trivuwan, the sysetm was over burdened with buggers and dimwits like rajendra and surendra.. in future we have paras.. this system also forces kids to be head of state if the situation arrives. case and point girvan shah.... ranas came because the system accomodated because system enabled a guy like rajendra to be the king... aafno khubi le haina bau ra hajurbau ko karan le... i don't think we can afford another failing head of state who can only be replaced by his death or volunteery succession. at least the corrupt leaders can be voted out of office under democracy.. at least there is a chance that that is what we are looking for a chance.. a chance. who provides that chance the king? or junta?
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bodmas
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Posted on 02-20-07 3:02
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jai Nepal Prachande is one of us , if we don't like girija or prachande we can kick their ass anytime. but can you kick a king with 4000 army protecting him and 70000 army under him? if the king is gone you and I can make the change and put one of us in the leading position. I understand our democracy is not maruted but it won't last long. We will improve but king is no solution we have to do it the hard way. I won't still pay my Re 1 for corrupt leaders, but I can always indict the corrupted leaders not the all mighty powerful (sob) king. How can you rationalize the king dude. Tell me waht is the advantage we have when he is here??
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Posted on 02-20-07 6:45
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King loyal to his crown more than people .....Girja ...Parchanda, and their followers in the name civil society,Lawyers,journalists , There are loyal to INDIA.....when one Indian junior Ministry officals visit Nepal then it will be a big big headline in Nepali news paper.......and one small leaders of india...Sitaram yechuri...He was the most welcome person and hero in parliaments first sesssion..suppose he is the furtune maker of Nepali people...he merely represent 1 percent of indian people ....because his party is very small...But in Nepal he is most welcome leaders and respected in parliaments.. ....such tradition won't help Nepali people.....
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Jai_Nepal
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Posted on 02-20-07 9:23
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I am not saying the that we need a king ruling us. I don't want a person ruling us for the rest of my life. However, tell me a name of a person who u think is capable of ruling nepal. Someone who is fair, who is not corrupt, who really wants to help nepal from his heart, someone who is educated enough to know what is good and what is not, someone who is brave enough to accept critisism and listen to the people... If you know someone like that, then we'll all vote for him. I don't want the king, but there he says he is not going to rule for ever. He did say he will give the power back to the people once the situation comes under control.
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Posted on 02-20-07 9:31
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HE FUGGING HAD HIS CHANCE AND HE FUGGING BLEW IT. AND THIESE IDIOTS WANT TO GIVE HIMA ANOTHER CHANCE SO HE CAN FUG UP ALL OVER AGAIN ? HE HE HE NO FUGGING WAY.
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