recently have been seeing many interviews and with friend from sajha, can you answer this. Are we the kids from Ashoka's land or are we the kids of Prithivi Narayan's land? What is our identity? Hopefully will get a healthy debate

I mean sajhamitara

All chhetri bahuns are facing the same identity crisis these days.

Do not worry. You are not the only one.

I guess if you consider yourself a Nepali first, then Nepal will be your father land. But if you consider yourself a Hindu first, then Ashoka's land will be your father land.

And if you already have the green card or whatever, then start learning about the early settlers.

BTW, it will be erroneous on your part to look upon India as a homogeneous entity.

Are u referring Asoka as in shahrukh and kareena movie ashoka was it true movie I liked that movie. Or its different Asoka u talking about

I would say " I was born and raised in Nepal and I would like to return back someday but I consider myself world citizen and this fighting over religion and land is for the sole benefits of politicians and I am not into it "

Intelligent Guy yeah am referring to same Ashoka but not Shahrukh khan's movie because some of the things are fiction eg Ashoka serving on Kaling's prince etc.

There you go.

Ashokaland is your father land.

Case closed.

LOL!

Dude I had read and was taught, before even these shah rulers, bahuns, chettris, ashoka, sharukh, even Buddha, Indians, afghanistan, there were Newars( the same descendent of the Tibetans(many will disagree this i know)), , who lived within themselves practicing Saivism(Lord Shiva), that's why Newars call themselves as children of Shiva just as the Americans call themselves people of God IDK why. Newars practice Ajima, parashakti maa, and follow all the hierarchy of Gods unlike the hindus of India and worldwide. Just as the history of India, history of Nepal is old too. The emerging of Buddhanilkantha statue from lake, the Manjushree chopping the Chobhar mountains to let the waters of lake pass so valley could be created. I don't know it's your opinion, I call myself, Nepali, I call myself a descendent of Newar first, I think Ashokaland is way later. That's why i spent most of the time searching for newar Samhita and Newari scriptures to decipher if it's all true. Dude I don't call myself from Prithvi Narayan's land, he is some descendant of India. Forgive me if I'm wrong, we all have our own theories.

prithvi narayan shah was from thakuri race ie, a mixture of khas and magar ethnicity. i dont consider myself the son of ashoka or pn shah,u dont have to. i dont think that ashok ruled over all the himalayan states during his reign. but it is for sure that aurengzeb ruled all of hill kingdoms through rajahs .so u may call urself kids of aurengzeb.
and newar is a community of aryans, dravidians and tibetan races who settled down in the valley. hinduism and buddhism both were brought here by bihari rajputs who ruled the valley for 1400 years after the kirats.

Many: You answered genuinely but this dude's job is to provoke.

How many years back you want to go ? Human Origin is Africa. Are we African Nepali? Then we  may be related to Obama. 

My little two cents:
If you look back to history, we all came from middle east. Since we are Aryans. If you look further more, we have same descendant from Europe as we are all Aryans. Even before that, they say we all came from Africa where the evolution started.
Now to the point, India was never one India before recent times. It was divided into many small states. But they are called in old days India pranta or Indian zone. So, that pranta consists of various group of people living. They include from Afganistan, Pakistan and other countries.
Saying that where we came back does not matter. Since my ancestors were all born in Nepal. Donot now since when my ancestors were in Nepal.
That said we are all Nepali before anything and we have a country named Nepal. We should all think about our self as Nepali.

Gonecrazy,

when you say India prant or indian zone, I hope you mean भारतवर्ष or भारतीय उप-महादिप or Indian Sub-continent.

And, there have been many 'laspas" between people from different origin, so you can't say without error who is descendant of what ethnic group. I think most of the nepali jati (at least that fall under hindu barnashrarm today) are mix of Aryan who migrated to indian sub-continent from Europe through middle-east AND the Aryans who migrated to karnali Pradesh (called 'khas' mostly in recent past) from central asia/Europe through western Tibet. And people believe that there must have been enough marital exchanges between mongols from western Tibet and traveling Aryans from central asia so as to make khas settled in Karnali Pradesh a totally different ethnicity compared to relatively pure Aryan who migrated to the indian sub-continent.

shiva-linga,
....but you may know that ruling thakuris do not believe that they have some khas or mongol elements in their ancestry. It is actually a part of officially acknowledged history that thakuris are pure rajputs directly from india. The irony is that many thakuris in villages in districts in 'western development region' , who are authentic descendants of kulmandan shah, practice the 'mama ko chora /chori bibaha'. That practice is prevalent in magar and gurung community. Also, a pure Rajput is not allowed to drink liquor whereas it is permissible in pure khas.

Eastern Khas tried to improvised ( influenced by learned people Brahman)  as Brahman therefore there is slightly different between western and eastern khas is that True?

@Nepalilaure
You are right. I mean indian subcontinent.

Although we may have come from different origin, my point is we are Nepali.

But having more detail knowledge about our origin from you in always nice

Ma Gorkhe bro

Nepali lahure Bro
Aryan Invasion Theory has been proved wrong again and again. it's like pakistani saying we are not the original inhabitant of this land we came to invade the indus from Arab. Why be shameful of what you are.
People giving reason they are Aryans or Rajput or Chettri or Newars at the end all is bullshit we were born in this land  the Indian subcontinent is our home from Afghanistan to Burma From Nepal to Srilanka.
my two and half cents

ok Many bro,

Indian establishment is has worked very hard to 'refute' the aryan envasion theory as it would definitely create a lot of racial disharmony in an uncontrollable amount . I don't know if independent intellectuals/historians are fully convinced on that. let's put that aside.

कम्तिमा ५/६ हजार  पुरानो हिन्दु सभ्यता , येति सानो ठाउँ छ तर कर्णाली प्रदेशका खसहरु तेती नजिकको दक्षिणको धर्म संस्कृतिबाट कत्तिपनि प्रभावित नभई बसेको ----येस्मा केहि त छ / DNA analysis गरेका छैनन् भन्या ?

तर अहिलेको reality त; तेही त हो नि \ नेपाल थरि थरि फुलको साझा फुलबारी \

nepalilaure Bro